Maybe create a blog or something. I am pretty good at anything that is not college. NHL, NBA, MLB and NFL. I am really good with numbers and keep stats on everything. For the past two years, I have been profitable and I am getting better, but I feel that I need to get to that next level.

what do you mean Ideas???? there are only a few ways to bet. Moneyline, spread, parlay, etc… or do you mean to give your thoughts and “picks” to share.

Keep in mind unless yo ualready have alot of followers/friends it will be hard, there are tons of gambling blogs already out there from professionals.

I have worked for 2 of the biggest Sports Pick Companies in Las Vegas. Trust me when I tell you, they don’t rely on their pick records to convince customers to pay them money. It is a game of deception and arrogance. I know the business inside out and eventually I got so disgusted I had to leave and become a professional gambler on my own. However, let me just say, some of these sports pick companies make several million dollars per year. I know how they do it and what must be done.

I have played with the idea of opening my own website for Sports Picks, because without sounding to arrogant, I know the ins and outs of how they make so much money.

The one thing you need to realize is, NOBODY hits 70% of their ATS bets. I am a 20 year professional and I know more than probably anyone you have ever met, and I hit around 60%, which is darn good. An amateur might hit about 53% (which I certainly did for about a decade). That means the difference between a professional and an amateur is about 6 correct picks out of a 100. A professional should hit about 60 out of 100 picks ATS, whereas an amateur will hit 50% t0 55%.

Don’t ever believe these sports pick companies or an individual when they say they hit 70% or higher on their ATS bets, they are blatantly lying to you.

• Remember that Commissioner Landis was a former Judge…and a “hanging judge” at that…

  There is a tradition in American Law that an accessory to a crime may be found just as guity as the actual criminal. In this case, Weaver knew about the fix…Thus Landis found him guilty of being an accessory to the act. Because there was only one punishment, lifetime banishment, he shared the same fate as the rest of the Black Sox

• Absolutely not. Any involvement in gambling and you are out forever. That is clear and needs to be clear to see so that there is no question about games being fixed.
• If he really didn’t take money, or do anything to lose, then I say yes. The penalty has fit the crime.
• If someone didn’t commit a crime but knew about it and did nothing, your guilty!
  BTW – Eight Men Out was a great film!
• LMAO.
  Particularly at the fact that some people just don’t get your drift.

  As for my real answer, I’d actually consider Weaver before any of the other Black Sox or most notably, Pete Rose. My answer would still be a resounding “Hell, no!”, but I’d pause a second or two before replying in Weaver’s case.

• Do media influence sports related choices and actions?
  Yes it does, just like media actually influences choices and actions in general.

  What is the social value of NFL’s Super Bowl, the MLB’s World Series, the PGA Tour/European PGA’s British Open, or the Olympics in full display on national television?
  Entertainment for sport lovers and enthusiasts.

  How does sports betting exist without sports media?
  It can’t. You need to follow the sports media in order to find out about the sports results.

  AJ

• Caminiti the only player to disclose his usage and expansive claims leaguewide?

  Canseco has hardly been mute on the matter. Two books and all.

• I think the baseball writers will put him in eventually. I do feel they are sending the Juicers a message and not electing any on the first or second ballot.

  Sammy Sosa was a juicer who also got suspended a few games for having a corked bat. He is a two time loser in my book because he lied on both instances.
  He said the bat was hit batting practice bat and he mixed it up with his game bats.

• It’s baseball dirty little secret.. PEDs have been used heavily in baseball since the game began. For decades team doctors not only provided them to players but actively encouraged players to use them.

  To have a credible excuse to keep Bonds out of the Hall, there would also have to be a serious investigation into the use of PEDs by people currently in the Hall of Fame. And that investigation would tarnish the names of a LOT of baseball’s all time greats.

• ROID$ : )
• @kinz…. Sosa didn’t deny using steroids or a corked bat. He just forgot to speak english when he was confronted about it.
• despite the fact he used steroids, he still broke Hank Aaron’s home run record which makes him automatically a hall of famer like it or not.
• I believe that eventually whether people like it or not Bonds will be inducted in the HOF. hHe had already HOF numbers before the controversy started.
• He will never make it because baseball writers hold a grudge. I think the steroid era put a giant black eye on the sport and don’t think any of the juiced players deserve to be in the hall.
• Yes. The question here is WHEN he began cheating; Canseco’s timeline pretty much matches the start of Bonds’ career—most people assume it started in 2000 when his SLG took a 70-point jump despite him being 35. That’s enough evidence for me to agree with most people.

  In the 10 years from 1990-1999 his OBP would have been around .450—I mean seriously?? I think SB are vastly overrated, but he did it with a great percentage, and when you’re getting on base nearly half the time you’re turning singles into doubles at an alarming rate. 6 of those 10 years he stole 30+, with two 29s and one 28. Three of those seasons he stole 40 or more. He had 361 HR during that span and 8 Gold Gloves.

  I refuse to acknowledge him as the All-Time HR King, but when you’re the best player for an entire decade, you’re a Hall Of Famer.

• As much as i’d like to have a dividing line between some of the roided players, if you let one in, then you have to let all in, or at least consider them for it. I’d let Bonds in because even on the cream and clear, he still had to make contact with the ball! I’ve been watching basball for a long time and can’t remeber so many teams and pitchers NOT wanting to pitch to a player! Bonds would go a few games in a row where teams didn’t pitch to him, and then when someone finally did, the ball wound up in the bay! Let him in.
• I would vote him in.

  His talents are unquestionable, and Baseball decided that winning back fans was more important than making sure players were not using PEDs. I don’t think that choice is right is wrong… and I am certainly not going to hold the choice of the culture of baseball against one player.

• I wouldn’t vote him in. Rewarding scumbags is a terrible example to players and fans

  I favor blood testing: Trouble is MLB doesn’t want that being greedy and money-driven

• It’s all about intent. When a player knowingly does something to gain an illegal or unfair advantage over his peers, he cannot be rewarded for such a choice. Since the BBWAA has been so inept and are too subjective over the years in its selection of players, I doubt that Bonds will have to wait too long before he infects Cooperstown.

  He will no doubt receive a “slap on the wrist” in 2013, (his first year of eligibility), but that will only be done by the BBWAA to show the public that they, “give a crap”. We all know that they don’t. Once Bonds gets in, and he will, all the other “PED users” with HOF stats will eventually get in. Sad but true.

  Would I vote for Bonds? Hell, no! He cheated!

• Absolutely.

These white people couldn’t stop shutting up when it comes to their favorite NFL, MLB, and especially, NHL teams but when the topic of the NBA comes up, they automatically feel uncomfortable and try to change the subject back to their sport.

I have a feeling this is related to race.

Let’s face it…the NBA is considered a "black" league and many white people are turned off by that. Don’t be fooled by the "fans" you see on TV. Although most of them are white, they’re there because they’re not fans. They’re there because they have money and it’s something to do.If you ask one of those white spectactors who a certain player is, I bet you they probably won’t even know who they are.

However, the white fans that you see at NFL, MLB and NHL games (especially the NHL), are there because they’re true fans of the game and they truly love their teams.

Now, back to my question. Do you personally know any white person that follows the NBA religiously like they do other sports? I’m not talking about a casual fan, but a hardcore one!
I live in the NYC area, and I’m a hardcore Knick fan. It frustrates me because most of the people I interact with are white, but I can’t relate to them when it comes to the NBA.
I live in the NYC area, and I’m a hardcore Knick fan. It frustrates me because most of the people I interact with are white, but I can’t relate to them when it comes to the NBA.

Yes, Me

I’ve been a NBA fan and Nuggets fan for about 13 years

yup one of my friends is a pure ginger head irish and he is a huge fan of boston celtics

yea i know many..basketball aint only for blacks u know.

Me
Fuck yeah go bulls
<3

I have a lot of friends who are white and are hardcore nba fans, you just got
to look deeper.

I don’t know any hardcore nba fans that are white, but I know A LOT of football fans who are.

yea lots

BTW I dont know a single person who’s a NHL fan regardless of race

edit: do you live in an area without a NBA team? that could be one reason

Me!!

I’m female too

Im white and I’m a diehard celtics fan.

I am. I’ve watched the celtics since I was 9 and have always stood by then and they will always be my favorite team. they may be 4-4 now but I still support them and even if they had 10 wins in one season I would still wear the jerseys and talk trash to my friends. Celtics 2012 champions!

had 2,000 more hits, at 4,256, and isn’t in the Hall of Fame. I thought that Bud Selig was going to look at his case around 5 years ago, but still, no word? When is enough, enough? It’s time to re-enstate Pete back into baseball and make him elibilble for the Hall of Fame. Even if he bet on baseball after he played, as a Manager, that still doesn’t take away from all of those hits he had as a player. He should’ve been a first ballot Hall of Famer. This is just ridiculous. It’s not like he cheated while he played. He didn’t take roids or anything. He had a gambling problem and bet while he was a manager, so what? And if it was a big deal, I think he’s paid for his sins by now. It’s been like 23 years. I think that’s long enough. Please let Pete in before he dies. What do you think?

Born: April 14, 1941 (1941-04-14) (age 70)
Cincinnati, Ohio
Batted: Switch Threw: Right
MLB debut
April 8, 1963 for the Cincinnati Reds
Last MLB appearance
August 17, 1986 for the Cincinnati Reds
Career statistics
Batting average .303
Hits 4,256
Home runs 160
Runs batted in 1,314
Teams
As player

Cincinnati Reds (1963–1978)
Philadelphia Phillies (1979–1983)
Montreal Expos (1984)
Cincinnati Reds (1984–1986)
As manager

Cincinnati Reds (1984–1989)

Career highlights and awards
3× World Series champion (1975, 1976, 1980)
1973 NL MVP
1975 World Series MVP
3× National League Batting Champion (1968, 1969, 1973
17× All-Star (1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1985)
2× Gold Glove Award winner (1969, 1970)
Silver Slugger Award winner (1981)
1963 NL Rookie of the Year
1968 Hutch Award
1969 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award
1976 Roberto Clemente Award
Major League Baseball All-Century Team
Holds numerous other records and achievements
MLB Records

4,256 career hits
3,562 career games played
14,053 career at-bats
you’re comparing gambling to what OJ did (Murder). Major FAIL

Pete Rose will not be inducted into the HOF as long as he lives. They will never give him the satisfaction of accepting the honor and giving a speech.

One rule. There is just ONE rule major leaguers have to follow. Just one. And that idiot couldn’t do it. He doesn’t deserve the Hall, pure and simple. He thought he was bigger than the game and he wasn’t. By your logic, if OJ had been found guilty of murder they should have released him anyway, because he had such a good record. Rose should be considered in about 450 years. And then rejected.

i 100% agree. Bud was just on the losing side of those bets i bet you. That why hes mad lol

Gambling in uniform is gambling in uniform. You can try to make all the excuses for it you want, but it’s the one rule you cannot break. And he broke it. Banned for life is the punishment. Banned for life he stays. And deservedly so.

Pete Rose DID use PED’s. He used illegal drugs to increase his performance, illegal amphetamines. Steroids are not the only PED’s that have been used in baseball. Amphetamines are illegal drugs used to increase performance. They are now banned every bit as much as steroids just not talked about as much. Pete Rose also bet on baseball. Pete Rose will never be in the HOF and never should be. When you start letting guys like Pete Rose in MLB becomes the WWE with fixed results. MLB can not allow players or managers to bet on the game or things like the Black Sox world series will become common place.

Peter Edward Rose SHOULD have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. But he chose to do the only thing that would carry a PERMANENT banishment from the game. So the reason Peter Edward Rose is not in the Hall of Fame is Peter Edward Rose. He made is own bed. Let him lay in it.

THis is what I think.
It’s nice to see your compassion for Mr. Rose.
I’m sure he would appreciate your thoughts.
Yes, he should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Yes, he had a gambling problem and bet while he was a manager.
You think he’s paid for his sins by now.
It’s been like 23 years.
You think that’s long enough.
You say let him in before he dies.

Not sure how OJ gets into a rationale discussion on the subject of Rose.

Rose accepted a lifetime ban from baseball, which disqualifies him from even being on the HOF ballot.
It’s too bad Rose has all the playing records but whose character couldn’t prevent him from gambling on games. You may recall he also stonewalled the investigation. You also recall Rose cheated on his income taxes and is a convicted felon for tax evasion – serving time in a Federal Penitentiary.

Let him in before he dies.
You’re comparing someone who broke a Cardinal Rule in baseball to what it took for Ron Santo to finally get into the Hall literally after he died. Now THAT was a very Major FAIL.

Now let me start off by saying that there are always rules people need to follow, and it’s inexcusable to intentionally disobey those rules.

But the Hall of Fame is designed to recognize the greatest ball-players of all time, and Rose is clearly one of the best. So they’re basically shunning all of his great accomplishments because he simply broke a rule. I don’t care what punishment they give for disobeying the so-called “Cardinal Rule”, but don’t completely ignore his legendary career. The greatest players of all time need to be recognized.

On the other side, I do realize what gambling can do to baseball. I wouldn’t want to be a fan of a sport where I have to wonder if the game was rigged when something out of the ordinary happens. So for everyone who breaks the gambling rule, I think it’s correct to punish them to a fairly severe degree, but I don’t understand the point in ignoring his accomplishments. Come on now.

Hey, why don’t you argue for the reinstatement of Buck Weaver first? We KNOW he didn’t bet on games. He’s actually INNOCENT.
He needs to be reinstated before Rose.

“When is enough, enough?” is better asked of the pro-Rose apologists and groupies. How many decades before they surrender this futile fight? Or, at the very least, TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT than just crabbing away from their keyboards — a method which, after 22 years, I think we can proclaim a proven failure for effecting material change to Rose’s status.

Rose’s on-field performance is not the reason he is not in the Hall. Such an argument is nonsensical, and really not worth pursuing. Worth noting, however, that neither was his playing career sufficient grace for ignoring the special damning circumstances he brought upon himself which DO obviate his Hall eligibility. It works both ways.

Anyone who thinks Rose’s gambling transgressions happened only after he took his last at-bat* is woefully naive. Dowd never substantiated the claims and didn’t need to, but there is evidence that Rose bet during his last few playing seasons, and sketchier indications that his gambling stretched WAY back into his playing career.

Rose could, possibly, EARN a second chance. It never is going to be handed to him. Fans whining about his fate (that he wrought with his own acts, and agreed to by his own signature) really are not helping the cause.

ps. Rose’s sentence is “permanent ineligibility”. When “permanent” expires, he’ll have served his time. We’re not there yet.

———-
* He struck out against San Diego’s Goose Gossage, ending the bottom of the eighth (while pinch-hitting for the pitcher) in a 9-5 loss to the Padres, 17-August-1986.

Born: April 14, 1941 (1941-04-14) (age 70)
Cincinnati, Ohio
Batted: Switch Threw: Right
MLB debut
April 8, 1963 for the Cincinnati Reds
Last MLB appearance
August 17, 1986 for the Cincinnati Reds
Career statistics
Batting average .303
Hits 4,256
Home runs 160
Runs batted in 1,314
Teams
As player

Cincinnati Reds (1963–1978)
Philadelphia Phillies (1979–1983)
Montreal Expos (1984)
Cincinnati Reds (1984–1986)
As manager

Cincinnati Reds (1984–1989)

Career highlights and awards
3× World Series champion (1975, 1976, 1980)
1973 NL MVP
1975 World Series MVP
3× National League Batting Champion (1968, 1969, 1973
17× All-Star (1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1985)
2× Gold Glove Award winner (1969, 1970)
Silver Slugger Award winner (1981)
1963 NL Rookie of the Year
1968 Hutch Award
1969 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award
1976 Roberto Clemente Award
Major League Baseball All-Century Team
Holds numerous other records and achievements
MLB Records

4,256 career hits
3,562 career games played
14,053 career at-bats
Texhabs, he never bet against the Reds. Show me the proof that he did that? Give me a link. You can’t, because that never happened.

• Because, he’s a cheater and a traitor.Ok ..That’s why.
• Pete Rose lied for 18 years before he finally told the truth. Baseball holds grudges. Shoeless Joe Jackson has been waiting to get into The Baseball Hall of Fame for 9 Decades. Baseball hasn’t forgiven him for The Black Sox Scandal. Pete Rose Gambled on his own Sport, which every Athlete knows is something that you do not do.
• He bet against his own team while serving as player-manager. If you choose
  to ignore that it’s your decision, but I for one find Pete’s actions unforgiveable.
• Quick answer. The players you mentioned did not break Rule 21. Rose did.
• It’s nice to see your compassion for Mr. Rose.
  I’m sure he would appreciate your thoughts.
  Yes, he should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer.
  Yes, he had a gambling problem and bet while he was a manager.
  You think he’s paid for his sins by now.
  It’s been like 23 years.
  You think that’s long enough.
  You say let him in before he dies.

  Rose accepted a lifetime ban from baseball, which disqualifies him from even being on the HOF ballot.
  It’s too bad Rose has all the playing records but whose character couldn’t prevent him from gambling on games. You may recall he also stonewalled the investigation. You also recall Rose cheated on his income taxes and is a convicted felon for tax evasion – serving time in a Federal Penitentiary.

• The man pulled down his pants and crapped all over baseball. As a manager — the person who is in the best position to influence the outcome of the game — and in all likelihood as a player, too, he broke the one and only rule that is posted in every single locker room in pro ball. He’s a pig who lied about it and only told the truth when he perceived that doing so might give him a chance to be reinstated. Timothy McVeigh should have been let loose? Nah. Rose is done. For all of history, just as it should be.
• Drug abuse is a different matter than internal gambling, and baseball addresses it in a different manner.

  Rose is not going to be handed a second chance. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves, and more vocal denialists are trying to delude others (though mainly they just annoy others). They would be well-advised to stop doing this.

  Why has not Rose tried to EARN a second chance? Commit to major overhauls in his personal lifestyle, get the hell out of Las Vegas (it just doesn’t look good, an addicted gambler hanging out there), and start down the road of rehabilitation and the 12-step GA program. This doesn’t stand a very good chance at all of earning Rose reinstatement, but it’s the only chance he’s got, and it only works while he’s still drawing breath.

  Ask and try to answer that question instead: why has not Rose tried to EARN a second chance?

  It’s not immediately germane, but recall that Rose added 14 years of serial lying about his culpability and guilt after he was expelled. That doesn’t much help someone trying (theoretically, anyway) to get back in on good standing, when his biggest asset must needs be the quality of his character.

  Rose did apply for reinstatement in 1997, but Kommissar Selig has never bothered ruling on the request, is under no mandate to rule on it, and by now it is quite obvious he never is going to rule on it.

• William B Cox, owner of the Philadelphia Phillies in the 1940s, bet on his teams. To WIN.
  And he was banned in 1943. He has yet to be reinstated.
  Pete Rose VOLUNTARILY ACCEPTED a permanent place on baseball’s ineligible list. Pete Rose said, ‘OK, I’ll be permanently banned from baseball, I’ll sign the thing.’
  John Dowd, of the Dowd Report, has stated that he believes, but cannot prove, the Rose DID bet against the Reds.
  Rose has NEVER apologized for betting on baseball, at least in any way that could be considered sincere.
  Rose can apply for reinstatement, every single year, but he has only tried four times.

  EDIT- Has Pete Rose ever even ‘asked’ for a second chance? Has he sent the Commissioner a letter asking, ‘What, if anything, can I do to redeem myself and get reinstated?’ How about you get Pete Rose to hold a press conference stating ‘I am sorry and do not deserve to be reinstated, but if MLB would give me a second chance, just tell me what I must do, and I will do it 100 times over!’
  Then it’ll start looking like he gives a damn.

• I agree, I always thought he got a raw deal. I never want to see MLB standards lower themselves to NFL standards, I hate seeing criminals being treated like heroes. But I don’t think Pete Rose should be kept from the HOF since he did earn it.
  I feel like they just wanted to make an example of him to discourage it, that’s why such a severe penalty.

rugby pros vs NFL players- could they switch, and how would a match-up look?
im a fan of both sports.
first of all, the people arguing over which is "tougher" and that the other sport is "soft" are idiotic..i can assure you both are very physically demanding, very rough, very brutal, and very challenging.
im american, my main sport is definitely football. im a starting WR for the florida high school 6A state champions, but ive always messed around with rugby.
last year i visited friends in new zealand who play nationally organized rugby junior league [we were all about 16] and played a full game against 2 actual teams [obviously an unofficial game]

so i do know what im talking about.

anyway, im asking a few things:
1. how would a top rugby pro do in the NFL and vice versa; how would they do switched?
2. if the all blacks [ elite world rugby team] played green bay packers in a game of rugby AND football, which side would do better in the other sport?

first for players, i think there are definitely a few who could switch relatively quickly and plausibly make the active roster, and a few who would even do well as starters. for example, jonah lomu was a rugby player. hes about 6’4.5, 275 pounds with VERY little fat [looks like a WR] and ran an estimated 4.5 40…now i bet he could make a damn decent MLB at the NFL level after a little training. likewise, im sure bo jackson could succeed in any sport where he picks up a ball and runs past defenders! both top NFLers and rugbyers are big, strong, and fast. if you’re 250 pounds and can run 100m in under 11 sec, you’re going to be good i na physical game like football/rugby.

the players would have an advantage over non-players of identical size/speed in that they do have some experience playing a somewhat similar game. that being said, rugby and footbal are more different than you think. the rules and gameplay arent really that parallel- they’re two very distinct sports. im 6’3, 225 pounds, run a 4.39 laser 40 [fastest in state] and have full scholarship offers from UF, alabama, UM, georgia and nebraska. so im pretty good. but when i played that rugby game in new zealand, i was the worst guy on the field, and by no means overpowered anyone. and trust me, rugby tackles can be REALLY hard! following the rules was hard enough, and even when i figured it out, i wasnt very good. however, i was able to score using my speed/catching…i was the fastest by a mile, they were amazed at my speed.

here are some problems each team might face:
FOOTBALL players problems playing rugby:
-endurance: stanima would be a serious problem for NFL guys, rugby players are unquestionably superior in stamina.
- skill: overall i must admit rugby takes a little bit more learned skill and ability
- versatility: in rugby, players must serve more roles and be able to adjust far more quickly. everyone WILL touch the bill multiple times in the game. NFL
RUGBY players problems playing football:
- hits: sorry rugbyers, football hits ARE harder. those pads are necessary- being really tough isnt enough, you WILL be injured if you’re hit football style without pads. rugby tackles arent soft either, but they’d be in for a rude awakening.
-specialization: NFLers are REAALLLY good at the position they play because its all they play. having a balanced team lile rugby wouldnt work, you’d need to be individually equal to NFLs in specific positions
-speed: yes, football pauses alot, but pace of gameplay is MUCH faster…lightning speed. rugby players havent seen gameplay that fast. NFL players are definitely faster to.
-size/strength: gotta give NFL slight edge in size strength, especially linemen.

so lets say the green bay packers and all blacks played a game of rugby, and a game of football. obviously each would win their own sport, but who would do better in the "other" sport?

im know im biased, but i gotta go with NFL doing the better job. i dont see rugby defense having any clue how to stop 30 yard passes to WR, and NFL would score at will. rugby offense playing football might score with runs short passes, but adjusting would be too difficult.
in the rugby game, NFL would lose, but i think everyone in a while a speedy WR or RB could run one in. again, put a ball in bo jacksons hand and he’ll make magic. the fast NFL defense could give the rugby offense more trouble then they’d expect

Really? Do you see honestly see any NFL player having the slightest chance of going for the full eighty minutes? Without a breather after every tackle and without endless substitutions? These guys have spent a lifetime training for a sport played in 5 second bursts, and they are great for those five seconds. But cardio is not exactly high on their training priorities list.

And do you really see any NFL runner coping with an offense where there is no blocking and offloading during the tackle is utterly critical to run a successful offense. Bo Jackson might be great — until he went down. Then it would be a turnover every time as he would have absolutely no offloading skills.

The fact of the matter is that both sports are so completely different — and take a lifetime of training to compete at an elite level — that each team would be utterly hopeless at the other sport. Forget the All-Blacks. Any fourth-level English semi-pro club would crush the Packers in a rugby match. As would any Division III NCAA college team crush the All-Blacks at American football should they find themselves on a gridiron pitch.

So my question is why compare rugby and gridiron? You might as well choose basketball and ice hockey. It makes as much sense.

NFL players by majority are; faster (guys running 4.1 over forty on every team), stronger (hundreds of players benching 750lbs and squatting 800lbs) and bigger (linebackers average 6’4 250lbs, lineman 6’6 350lbs) and most of the NFL is comprised of African Americans who are naturally & genetically gifted athletes who have dominated all physical sports from the time they were given permission to compete in white man sports!

The only thing Rugby players trump NFL players in is overall endurance & stamina. Rugby is played at 75% at a non-stop pace, but no-one is ever going 100%. NFL is played at 100% from play to play utilising fast twitch muscle fibers. NFL football is way more high impact, high collision than Rugby and it would take Rugby players a long time to adjust to getting hit that hard. It would also be hard for NFL players to adjust to non-stop football. I think NFL players are in general better all-round athletes and are the best money can buy (the fact that 1 NFL team is worth more than several pro Rugby teams certainly gives the NFL an advantage in scouting and buying anyone in the world they think could cut it) bottom line is it could be done but with great difficulty.

Comparing the sports is ludicrous, one is all about endurance and all round skill the other is all about speed and individual skill base ie one is big another fast etc

That said NFL players would struggle with the absolute lack of tackling technique. With their lead with the head technique and dive at the knees in their “more physical” less brains way of bringing an opponent down they would get knocked out within two minutes.
Rugby players would struggle with a lack of size in general although if they did not have to worry about cardio and just weights or speed i am sure they would adjust.

But the real question is why do NFL fans have to come on to a rugby site to justify their supposed dominance….insecure much.

That’s a BIG question!

I have played rugby all my life, and American football for about 7 years, so I too have a decent background to answer this question.

Quite simply, the level of specialisation and training a player needs to put in to play at either NFL or international rugby level is so great that neither could really switch with any degree of success.

The only players who seem able to switch codes are the AFL players who go into the NFL as punters, and then only because that one skill is transferable (to some degree).

Given the time and inclination, I am sure some players could transfer, but I don’t think it would be worth it in the long run – as they would be relative rookies going up against guys who had played the game since they were children. You would be looking at the guys who are superb athletes to start with, guys like Sonny Bill Williams, Pierre Spies, David Pocock, Adrian Peterson, Greg Jennings, Clay Matthews (yeah I’m a Packers fan, whatever!).

Would it be worth unlearning a lifetime worth of lessons to go from being a star in one sport to merely competent in another? I doubt many players would think so – and yet who knows?

so i do know what im talking about.

anyway, im asking a few things:
1. how would a top rugby pro do in the NFL and vice versa; how would they do switched?
2. if the all blacks [ elite world rugby team] played green bay packers in a game of rugby AND football, which side would do better in the other sport?

first for players, i think there are definitely a few who could switch relatively quickly and plausibly make the active roster, and a few who would even do well as starters. for example, jonah lomu was a rugby player. hes about 6’4.5, 275 pounds with VERY little fat [looks like a WR] and ran an estimated 4.5 40…now i bet he could make a damn decent MLB at the NFL level after a little training. likewise, im sure bo jackson could succeed in any sport where he picks up a ball and runs past defenders! both top NFLers and rugbyers are big, strong, and fast. if you’re 250 pounds and can run 100m in under 11 sec, you’re going to be good i na physical game like football/rugby.

the players would have an advantage over non-players of identical size/speed in that they do have some experience playing a somewhat similar game. that being said, rugby and footbal are more different than you think. the rules and gameplay arent really that parallel- they’re two very distinct sports. im 6’3, 225 pounds, run a 4.39 laser 40 [fastest in state] and have full scholarship offers from UF, alabama, UM, georgia and nebraska. so im pretty good. but when i played that rugby game in new zealand, i was the worst guy on the field, and by no means overpowered anyone. and trust me, rugby tackles can be REALLY hard! following the rules was hard enough, and even when i figured it out, i wasnt very good. however, i was able to score using my speed/catching…i was the fastest by a mile, they were amazed at my speed.

here are some problems each team might face:
FOOTBALL players problems playing rugby:
-endurance: stanima would be a serious problem for NFL guys, rugby players are unquestionably superior in stamina.
- skill: overall i must admit rugby takes a little bit more learned skill and ability
- versatility: in rugby, players must serve more roles and be able to adjust far more quickly. everyone WILL touch the bill multiple times in the game. NFL
RUGBY players problems playing football:
- hits: sorry rugbyers, football hits ARE harder. those pads are necessary- being really tough isnt enough, you WILL be injured if you’re hit football style without pads. rugby tackles arent soft either, but they’d be in for a rude awakening.
-specialization: NFLers are REAALLLY good at the position they play because its all they play. having a balanced team lile rugby wouldnt work, you’d need to be individually equal to NFLs in specific positions
-speed: yes, football pauses alot, but pace of gameplay is MUCH faster…lightning speed. rugby players havent seen gameplay that fast. NFL players are definitely faster to.
-size/strength: gotta give NFL slight edge in size strength, especially linemen.

so lets say the green bay packers and all blacks played a game of rugby, and a game of football. obviously each would win their own sport, but who would do better in the "other" sport?

im know im biased, but i gotta go with NFL doing the better job. i dont see rugby defense having any clue how to stop 30 yard passes to WR, and NFL would score at will. rugby offense playing football might score with runs short passes, but adjusting would be too difficult.
in the rugby game, NFL would lose, but i think everyone in a while a speedy WR or RB could run one in. again, put a ball in bo jacksons hand and he’ll make magic. the fast NFL defense could give the rugby offense more trouble then they’d expect

No one will read all that!!!

You wrote a book!!! Too much to read for two points…

LOL! Someone’s really impressed with himself.

I bet you were a starting WR at a 6A Florida high school. LMAO!

The Kiwis may have been amazedwith your speed but I’m amazed at your bull shít and delusional super inflated ego, You never played football or a pick up Rugby game in New Zealand.

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Francona managed the Red Sox for eight seasons and left after they wasted a nine-game September lead in the AL wild-card race.

St. Louis is seeking a replacement for Tony La Russa, who retired two days after winning his second World Series in 16 seasons with the Cardinals.

More interviews are planned for Wednesday, believed to be with third base coach Jose Oquendo and Hall of Fame second baseman Ryan Sandberg, who managed the Phillies Triple-A team last season.

St. Louis previously interviewed Mike Matheny, Joe McEwing and Chris Maloney. Matheny and Maloney have organizational ties and McEwing played for St. Louis.

The 48-year-old Oquendo has been the third base coach the last dozen years. He played his final 10 major league seasons with the Cardinals from 1986-95 when he was nicknamed the “Secret Weapon” as a nod to his versatility.

St. Louis has received permission from the Phillies to talk with Sandberg, ruled out earlier for the managing job with the Cubs, the team he starred for from 1982-97.

After he left the Red Sox, there were reports players drank beer and ate fast food-fried chicken in the clubhouse during games rather than root on their teammates. The Boston Globe reported the club was concerned he was “distracted,” living in a hotel while separated from his wife and taking painkillers to deal with knee operations. Francona has said his personal life did not affect his performance.

Boston ended an 86-year championship drought in 2004, Franconas first season, when the Red Sox swept the Cardinals in the World Series. Francona also managed the Red Sox to a sweep of Colorado in the 2007 Series.

Francona is the second-winningest manager in Red Sox history with a 744-552 record and 8-0 mark in the World Series.

Francona and Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak did not respond to requests for comment.

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